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Was it a mistake to self publish?

By chum600 | Posted: 08 August 2010

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I was warned not to self publish "Benefit Thieves" but became despondent with the time delays and rejections. I bit the bullet and forked out for my batch of ten ISBN's and then got 100 copies printed thinking I would easily sell them and order more. What I hadn't reckoned was the phenomenal difficulty in getting publicity let alone a review. Given the book is about Benefit Fraud and the total stupidity of the policy beyond investigating it I thought my timing was spot on with the change of government and the need to do something. Maybe I was but it soon became apparent that the name "Six Hundred" became an obstacle because it was a pen name too far removed from a 'normal name'! Of course I could try other avenues - website sales are minimal, and I am wondering whether to relaunch the book with another name and pen name - Jon Giles who is my character in the book. A couple of reviews on Amazon from readers doesn't seem to help but I am finding Amazon extremely hard work. Maybe I should go back to seeking that all illusive agent!!!
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Comments 
churchmouse
09 August 2010
Hello chum600. It is difficult to comment on your book without actually reading any of it. I looked on your list of submissions but could not find anything relating to it. So therefore it is impossible to evaluate the writing. Also I am not sure if the reviews you had were good or bad as it is not clear. That said I think that the subject matter is a good one and that a book on this subject has commercial possibilities.
I have to agree that the pen name of six hundred could be confusing and maybe you should change it on the book cover.
Presumably you used someone else to edit the book before it was written in its final draft and so the writing will be ok, so you are stuck with a number of copies that are not moving. It may be worth mailing the books rather than a ms to agents. I have self published a small book of my writing simply for this purpose as (I think) that it looks more professional than a loose ms.
Publicity and reviews for an unpublished/unknown writer are very hard to sort out without either throwing a great deal of money at it or having contacts within the trade so an agent may be your best bet.
Grampa Pogi
10 August 2010
Hi Chum600,

Before I comment, I'd like to disclaim any notion of 'expertise' as I am only expressing an opinion. I am not an expert on this field. I haven't had any experience self-publishing, however, I had my first book on Print On Demand (POD). There's a big difference although some people might say they are the same. With self-publishing, you get your own ISBNs and in most countries, you pay for them. You'd also do your own editing, cover design, distribution, promotions etc., because you are your own publisher.  Fortunately, in Canada, ISBNs are supplied free for Canadians to self-publish. 

I had my book done in the US on POD. The POD 'print service' (that's actually what the PODs are) supplied everything from ISBNs (three - softcover, hardcover & e-book), cover design, some editing (very important), distribution (including book stores) and if you'd like to shell out some money, even minor publicity. With self-publishing, you would have to do all that (and more). With POD, you don't have to buy anything and if a reader would buy, that's when it gets printed. Unlike self-publishing, no inventory (unless you'd want to keep some copies). 

What I did was purely for testing to see if anyone would get excited with my fictional story before I waste any more time and money on it. Often, it's not only publicity that would get your book going, there's also that phenomena called word-of-mouth. If your book is good, your readers would sell it for you. You could spend thousands to hire for a publicist, advertising, paid reviews (some are, believe it or not), but if your book sucks, pardon the rudeness of this word, there is no hope in hell you'd ever get your money back.

The only advertising I've done so far is my website (and if you check the top, it even says 'hosted for free by go daddy') and a few emails. I do my own web programming (I'm a retired system engineer) and it's rather easy to say 'check abrill.com', if someone asks about the book without me spending a ton of money. There's also that so-called 'confidence' in your work.  People who write 'fiction' could get away with a pen name. Those who write non-fiction, most especially those whose books fall under the category of an 'exposé', the draw for their book is their name being an expert on their field. Using 'six hundred' as the author's name would be as you've said 'too far removed'. It might also sound like the author is 'hiding' the exposé under a pen name. But most importantly, it loses credibility on your exposé, let alone credibility on the author.  I would suggest you use your own name as an expert on the field of 'benefits'. Perhaps readers would give you the benefit of the doubt (no pun intended).

The next thing is, don't stop writing when the first one didn't pan out. If you intend to make money on your books, then you'd be frustrated. Not unless you're a big time celebrity, there's really no compelling reason for people to buy your non-fiction. Case in point, Sarah Palin is a bestseller. In my opinion (and I'm entitled to my opinion - I don't need any flamethrowers out there :-), that would be a waste of time and money both for publishers and readers. Nevertheless, Palin is a bestseller due to her celebrity status.  Even current bestsellers experienced tons of rejections during their early years. Take a look at John Grisham - 28 rejections - for a lawyer and a US state representative to experience that, he would have gone back to his old job. But he persevered and his second novel, The Firm, hit pay dirt. (check here - http://www.johngrishamonline.com/biography). Did you know Grisham,  as of 2008, has sold over 250 million books? Not bad for someone who had 28 rejections. I actually felt sorry for those who rejected him  . . . imagine the money they've lost - ha ha ha!

As for my book on POD, the reviews came in occasionally that if I could get even a few readers to express their joy about my book making their reading pleasure fulfilled, then I'm happy. The latest came from Seaford, East Sussex, UK.  (read the full letter at abrill.com). What's so special about this was it was handwritten and posted snail mail. The reader took the time to express his delight.  He said he'll campaign to have my book to be "in" his library in East Sussex. 

Now, I hired a French translator for my first book and I intend to seek out an agent somewhere in France. To me, it's just a part of my adventure - not to get rich but to enrich others . . . those who would be 'fortunate' to read my story. I call them fortunate because I'm sure they could learn a lot from my book (guaranteed).  I haven't heard anyone say anything bad about my story. Well, okay, two Filipinos asked who the publisher was. :-) I said, "heck, I don't even know the publishers of the bestsellers I've read". I shot back, "how many books have you read? And can you tell me who the publishers were for those you've read?" That shut them up so fast I think they won't be talking to me until I get my first 'traditionally published' book.  But of course, I know where they're coming from . . . they wanted to say, 'it's not a 'published' book, meaning it didn't go through a traditional publisher.  Filipino envy rears its green ugly head. :-)

I'd say don't give up and keep writing. There are also other avenues to pursue. Take your book to an e-book online seller (KOBO is good) and put a $2.99 price on it - see if it sells. If not, try $1.99 or even $0.99. If you're after the 'glory', at 99 cents, you could say you've sold a thousand copies if you raked in $999. 

If you've done it on POD, you could always say to potential buyers to get it from the online retailers without you keeping an inventory.

I agree with your assessment that in order to succeed, you must have an agent. But only very few sell even with an agent and/or a big time publisher. Most are taken off the shelf after a month of no movement and never to be heard of again.

Recently, I finished my second novel and queried a few small agents. Out of 8, only two replied with a rejection. The others didn't even have the courtesy to say 'boo'. In my mind, querying the smaller ones might be a 'better chance' than querying the bigger ones. I was wrong.  BTW, the smaller ones were all Canadians. Ha ha!. So I tried one with a big freaking Manhattan, NY office. He has a few bestsellers on the list and his catalog is quite impressive. I thought 'no way' but I did, nevertheless. I said, "nothing ventured, nothing gained". To my freaking surprise, that same morning, I was asked to send a full manuscript. I'm waiting for a yay or nay before I send it to another one. I'm still waiting.

It's not the end of the world if your first didn't make it. Or even your second. Or third. Only those who didn't give up learned there might be a silver lining. And if you give up now, then it would be your call.

I'm now on chapter nine of my third spy thriller. (Like yourself) I'm doing it for a hobby as I'm retired, (others say retarded) and it's fun to lose myself within my stories. And it's a good cure for Alzeimer's. And I intend to write until I croak.

Here's a list I read which might be of help to you: 'Writing the breakout novel' by Donald Maass; 'Guide to Book Publicity' by Lissa Warren; 'How to write a damn good novel' by James N. Frey; 'The complete handbook of novel writing' - articles by best-selling authors; Dan Poynter's Self-Publishing Manual; and 'The complete guide to self-publishing' by Marilyn Ross & Sue Collier. The last two was for my own education in case I set up my own publishing company. :-)  Hope it helps.

Cheers,
Grampa
ChrissieJo
10 August 2010
Don't give up! You've got so much advice / support already. 

You can publicise through friends, work, local fetes, family BBQ's, schools even your local newspaper etc. You never know what's round the corner.
Good luck!
louise
13 August 2010
I'd recommend sites like Twitter and Facebook to drop the word. A blog or website is a must. Design it around Jon Giles, give away the first chapter, offer a contest with your book as the prize, use bookbuzzer, put it on Smashwords as an ebook, get friendly with many writer's forums (I know a few ;) ) Take a pile of books to your local bookstore and get chatting to the manager, get friends and family to request it in libraries.
Write a news article about your book and send it to various papers and radio stations.
If people think it's hard to write a book, it's harder still to market it. But SO much fun!

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I decided I wanted to retire aged 57, this time from choice, and pursue interests that I had. One challenge was to finish writing a book that I had been trying to write about cases of Benefit Fraud that ... (Read more)